These carburetors suck. I didn't get home until 8 last night from work. Removed some old wiring and the battery tray from the bike. Tried to get the carbs off with no success. It was late and I was tired so I decided to call it a night. They were loose on the airbox side but didn't want to slide out of the manifolds coming off of the cylinder side. I will pull the whole air box out tonight and get them off for a full rebuild and see what else is going on. Good news is I may be receving a free parts bike on Friday.